Should Christians Ever Strategically Retreat?

What should mission-minded Christians be doing in so-called “blue states”?

Conservative Christians in the US are leaving blue states in droves. How and when should missional objectives override cultural and political concerns?

In this engaging episode, Alex and Scott tackle the topic of strategic retreat, a concept gaining controversy following Texas-based Pastor Joel Webbon’s comments and writings. They dive into the complex issues around mission fields, Christian responsibilities, and the relationship between spiritual and earthly kingdoms.

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Alex Kocman & Scott Dunford

Alex Kocman is the Director of Communications and Engagement for ABWE. He serves as general editor for Message Magazine and co-hosts The Missions Podcast. After earning his M.A. in Communication and B.S. in Biblical Studies, he served as an online apologetics instructor with Liberty University and a youth pastor in Pennsylvania, where he now resides with his wife and three children. Read his blog or follow him on X/Twitter.

Scott Dunford is the pastor of Western Hills Church in San Mateo, Calif. Previously, Scott served as Vice President of Mobilization and Communications for ABWE and as a missionary in East Asia. Scott graduated from Northland International University (B.A. in Pastoral Studies), earned his M.A. in biblical studies from Central Baptist Theological Seminary, his M.B.A. from Cornerstone University, and is currently enrolled in Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary’s D.Min. program with an emphasis on missions.